Students Confer With Kissinger; May Form Regular Lobby Group

National Security adviser Henry A. Kissinger '50 made another attempt yesterday to find out what students on the campus are thinking, but he wasn't about to let them know what he's thinking.

Kissinger met with Harvard student Keith Raffel '71 and nine other student representatives from across the country in the Situation Room of the White House for two hours yesterday afternoon. But as is his custom, Kissinger stipulated that his remarks remain off the record.

The group, which originated at the University of California at Berkeley, includes representatives from over 25 colleges across the country. The stated purpose of the group is to reverse the "delusion" in Washington that the nation's campuses are-and will remain-calm in the face of the Laos invasion.

Most representatives of the group are student body presidents, and since Harvard has no such post, CHUL drew lots for Harvard's delegate. Raffel won.

The group has met with a number of high-ranking government figures, among them Sen. George McGovern (D. S. D.), President Nixon's Special Assistant for Domestic Affairs Robert Finch, and former Ambassador Averell Harriman.

Raffel said last night that this series of meetings may pave the way for the establishment of a national student lobby.

"We would hope to have a permanent office with someone to set up appoint-ments for the lobbyists," he said. "After all, everybody else has a lobby; why shouldn't we?"

Raffel emphasized that the stay in Washington has made extremely clear to him the tremendous difference between the way peace advocates and Administration supporters think.

"It's just incredible . . . McGovern, for instance, talks about homeless orphans in Vietnam, while the Pentagon bigwigs talk in terms of body counts and the like," he said.

Kissinger has recently come under heavy attack in the national press over the apparently undefined nature of his role in formulating foreign policy. Many call him the "second most powerful man in Washington."

Sen. Stuart Symington (D-Mo) urged Congress yesterday to halt proliferation of what he calls the "Kissinger syndrome"-a web of White House panels, groups and councils mastered by Henry Kissinger.

Kissinger "is the Secretary of State in everything but the title," Symington said. A Capitol appearance by Secretary of State William P. Rogers to explain Indochina to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee "is rather an empty exercise," he added.

But Kissinger, the man with the answers, never has testified to that committee or any other and remains "without accountability of any kind whatever," he said.

Asked why, in the face of such criticism, Kissinger usually refuses to disclose his remarks to such groups, Raffel said, "I think he feels that President Nixon must have a confidential adviser-someone who will answer only to him."